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Post by Mr. Blonde on Mar 31, 2012 7:38:03 GMT -5
Meh. One simple fireman's carry and she was in for the ride.
As for Arnie, for the longest time, he has trouble beating the simplest of villains. Think about it. Sinbad beat Schwarzenegger on three separate occasions in "Jingle All the Way"...
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Post by tailbest on Apr 3, 2012 19:06:19 GMT -5
Sinbad is a beast in that movie. He partially blows up a radio station...
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Post by onamirrorsedge on Apr 4, 2012 9:46:53 GMT -5
Meh. One simple fireman's carry and she was in for the ride. As for Arnie, for the longest time, he has trouble beating the simplest of villains. Think about it. Sinbad beat Schwarzenegger on three separate occasions in "Jingle All the Way"... Sigh. No, Jingle All the Way is an ironic take on the family comedy. All the time Arnie has the potential to be ruthless and crush his enemies, but his family distorts his direction, sowhile he is a lethal businessman, this strength and capability does not continue into his family life, where his wife has usurped the role of the rational, strong parent (typically the father, now the mother). It is only when this realisation comes about when he is explicitly challenged by another man eating his cookie (innuendo?), when he is marginalised as the provider of his son and when he is given the opportunity to man up which had been hitherto taken away, that we see his true character comes through. So, it is only through the off chance happening of being given the costume that Arnie's ego and his self are united, and he is not only able to beat sinbad, he is actually able to not beat him through the choice of combining his uber masculinity and his sentimental family side which was the catalyst allowing for the first transformation in the first place.
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Post by Mr. Blonde on Apr 4, 2012 9:48:52 GMT -5
So, basically you're saying that when Arnie yells, "Put that cookie down! NOW!", that's his character arc and he becomes awesome?
Good deal.
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Post by onamirrorsedge on Apr 4, 2012 9:49:51 GMT -5
It is at that moment we see him react, but then harness his rage, move away from revenge and plan ahead in a way we haven't seen before.
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Post by Mr. Blonde on Apr 4, 2012 9:52:14 GMT -5
And, don't forget, "He's putting MY star... on MY tree." Schwarzenegger is seeing the enemy in its true form and stop treating Sinbad as just another "friendly face".
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Post by onamirrorsedge on Apr 4, 2012 9:53:27 GMT -5
Your anger understands where reason cannot.
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Post by tailbest on Apr 4, 2012 10:30:58 GMT -5
So it was a slow burn Schwarzenegger? Instead of throwing people off cliffs and breaking someone's god damn spine, he took a more subtle and astute approach? I can buy that, He's trying to branch his prowess out a bit. That's why it didn't make as much money as Arnie's classics: the audience wasn't ready for those subtle changes.
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Post by Mr. Blonde on Apr 4, 2012 10:38:55 GMT -5
They're still not but in time, it'll be thought of in the same way as "Citizen Kane" and "Blade Runner".
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Post by tailbest on Apr 4, 2012 10:41:32 GMT -5
20 years from now, we look back fondly as Schwarzenegger flies around wildy dressed as "Turbo Man".
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Post by Mr. Blonde on Apr 4, 2012 10:45:30 GMT -5
Absolutely. In the best character studies of all time, it'll be the transformation of Harold Langston near the top of the list.
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Post by onamirrorsedge on Apr 4, 2012 11:18:19 GMT -5
So it was a slow burn Schwarzenegger? Instead of throwing people off cliffs and breaking someone's god damn spine, he took a more subtle and astute approach? I can buy that, He's trying to branch his prowess out a bit. That's why it didn't make as much money as Arnie's classics: the audience wasn't ready for those subtle changes. Thank you!
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Post by tailbest on Apr 4, 2012 17:44:44 GMT -5
Just speaking the truth!
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Post by dirtyvinylpusher on Apr 7, 2012 19:54:21 GMT -5
Terminator all the way. The less he speaks the better. ;D
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Post by tailbest on Apr 7, 2012 21:20:26 GMT -5
He was most menacing in The Terminator. As Vinyl said, the less he speaks (unless one-liners) the better.
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